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Herbert Joshua SANDERS

Herbert Joshua SANDERS

Male 1893 - 1979  (85 years)

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  • Name Herbert Joshua SANDERS 
    Birth 27 Jul 1893  Brooklyn, New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Death 13 Jul 1979  Forest Grove, Washington, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Burial 17 Jul 1979  Yamhill Carlton, Cemetery, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • GEDCOM line 21952 not recognizable or too long:
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      Information from family group sheets and temple records.

      DAD'S STORY

      Told to me, Arvilla, first child of Herbert and Arvilla Bernice, in November
      1959. He said, "My father, George Philip Sanders, born 31 March 1859, in
      Bells River, Prince Edward Island, Canada, and my mother, Minnie Ada Ketcham,
      born 26 May 1864, in Maspeth, Long Island, New York, were married 25 January
      1886. They met in Long Island where my father was working for the Long Island
      railroad, as a carpenter foreman.

      I'm the fourth of five children: three sisters, Genevieve Agnes, born 28
      September 1887; Edith Rundell, born 7 November 1888; Minnie Ketcham, born 8
      November 1890. I, Herbert Joshua Sanders, was born 26 July 1893, and my
      brother, George Philip, was born 27 July 1894.

      My father was raised by his oldest brother, Joseph, his parents having died
      when he was small. My father was 6 feet 2 inches tall in his stocking feet,
      very handsome and kind. He was raised on a farm till a young man, then
      learned the wheelwright and carpenters trade. My father was killed in a
      railroad accident when he was thirty-two and I was only two years old.

      My mother was tall, 5 feet 10 inches, and very pretty. She had dark brown
      eyes and dark hair, so loving and kind. She was a nurse. All her friends and
      neighbors knew what a wonderful nurse she was. She was the best cook in the
      world.

      Mother married Franklin Green Powers when I was five. When I was small, six
      to ten years old, we traveled all over the East going to race tracks. Race
      tracks was "Pop's" business. I went to Coney Island often, and roller skated,
      swam and played games.

      Impty, bimpty, diddly fig, One-ery, or-ere, Ick-ery Ann
      dee-la, doe-la, domin-ig Phil-isy, Phollisy, Nickolas Dan
      Ichee, pichee, domin-ichy, Stinklin, stonklin, Irish Mary
      om pom tusk ala-bala boo, Squeeby, squaby Buck.
      Out goes you.

      I was "King Pin" of our gang, and they weren't the best of playmates. I
      didn't say prayer as a child. I was christened in the Episcopal Church of
      England.

      As long as "Pop", my step-father, was alive we didn't want for anything. We
      had fine horses and carriages and two servants. Pop gave us too much money to
      spend for our own good.

      I was an "A" number one student until my mama died. I was 10 and Mama's pet.
      After she died I wouldn't go to school. I didn't have any home duties to do
      and was jut let to run the streets and amuse myself.

      "Pop" died when I was 14 and I was on my own from then on. Genevieve, my
      oldest sister, ran the house. She took in five or six teachers as boarders
      for a while and then went into nurse's training. Genevieve raised and
      supported all of us.

      Minnie and Edith took business courses and became stenographers. George
      worked for a slate roofing company and lived at home while I went to work on a
      farm. The man I worked for soon went into the painting and decorating
      business and so did I.

      One day when I was small I turned the neighbor's cows loose just for fun. My
      brother, George, was going to tell so we fought and George picked up a rock,
      threw it, and hit me in the back of the head. It hit so hard that it knocked
      me out. George was so scared he ran five blocks for the doctor. In the
      meantime, my sister Minnie carried me into the house and by the time the
      doctor got there I was all right. From that day on George wouldn't raise a
      hand to me no matter what I did to him. I took advantage of this many times.

      I read all the favorite children's books. I liked to read and still do.

      By the time I was fifteen I was working in Long Island in a bicycle and
      handyman's shop, and delivered groceries on a hand cart, and worked in a
      garage where I learned to be a mechanic.

      At seventeen, I was private chauffeur for a doctor. I soon got the wander
      lust and went to Florida where I worked as a chauffeur for a millionaire
      lumberman for two years.

      I was a chauffeur for a major in the signal corps during World War I. Most of
      my duties were in Texas. After the army I came to LaGrande, Oregon, and
      worked for the next fifteen years in the logging camps as a logging engineer.
      While at a logging camp in 1915, I met my first wife, Edith Leslie. I was
      twenty two, and she was sixteen when we were married.

      We had five children. The first baby, George Herbert, lived only eight hours.
      Edith was seventeen at the time and loosing her first baby was hard on her.

      Geneveive Mary was born 14 August 1918; Arthur William was born 18 August
      1920; Nadine Elizabeth was born 18 November 1922; and Robert Leslie was born 2
      April 1925.

      I bought the Texaco service station in Elgin, Oregon. I was in this business
      only a short time when Edith passed away. She had an abcess in the brain and
      suffered greatly.

      Having been left with four children ages 11, 10, 7 and 5, I had to have a
      housekeeper. There were several who were incompetent. I finally found one
      who was satisfactory, but she took ill suddenly and had to have emergency
      surgery, so her young widowed niece agreed to take over for her and hold the
      job until she could come back. But,---while the lovely young widow and her
      baby son, Billy, stayed, I fell in love with her many charms. Bernice was her
      name and she lived a few blocks from my house with her mother and stepfather.
      She came to work every morning at seven. I was always looking out the window
      watching for her to come up the walk.

      Finally I got up enough nerve to make permanent arrangements to keep her with
      me all the time. We were married December 2, 1929. To this union eleven
      children were born, making me the father of sixteen.

      William (Billy) Walter Newell, being my wife's first child, and a baby at the
      time of our marriage became my own in every way, except by blood ties.
      Together we raised sixteen.
    Person ID I1188  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 6 Jul 2004 

    Father George SANDERS,   b. 31 Mar 1859, Bellriver, PEI, Canada Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 8 Jan 1895, East NY, Long Island, NY Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 35 years) 
    Mother Minnie Ada KETCHUM,   b. 26 Mar 1864, Maspeth, Queens, New York Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 16 Nov 1904, Richmond Hill, Queens, New York Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 40 years) 
    Marriage 25 Jan 1886 
    Family ID F21  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Edith LESLIE,   b. 7 Jun 1899, Fossil, Wheeler, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 19 Feb 1929, Lagrande, Union, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 29 years) 
    Marriage 16 Oct 1915 
    Children 
     1. George Herbert SANDERS,   b. 9 Jul 1916, Summerville, Union, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 9 Jul 1916, Summerville, Union, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)
     2. Genevieve Mary SANDERS
     3. Arthur William SANDERS
     4. Nadine Elizabeth SANDERS
     5. Robert Leslie SANDERS
    Family ID F1108  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 1 Feb 2010 

    Family 2 Arvilla Bernice WANGSGARD,   b. 12 Mar 1907, Mountain View, Wyoming Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 21 Oct 1987, Forest Grove, Washington, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years) 
    Marriage 2 Dec 1929  Legrande. Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Arvilla Rae SANDERS
     2. Barbara Jean SANDERS
     3. Olga Mae SANDERS
     4. Elsa Lorraine SANDERS,   b. 23 Apr 1936, Ogden, Weber, Utah Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Utah Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. John Phillip SANDERS,   b. 21 Aug 1937, Vale, Malhuer, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 8 May 1990, Portland, Oregon Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 52 years)
     6. Frederick Joe SANDERS
     7. Virginia Lee SANDERS
     8. James Henry SANDERS
     9. George Franklin SANDERS
     10. David Joshua SANDERS
     11. Christine Lynn SANDERS
    Family ID F2  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 1 Feb 2010 

  • Photos
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and Arvilla Bernice Wangsgard temple sealing
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and Arvilla Bernice Wangsgard temple sealing
    Sealing certificate of Bert and Bernice
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Born in 1893
    Wansgard, Arvilla (Sanders) and Herbert Joshua Sanders
    Wansgard, Arvilla (Sanders) and Herbert Joshua Sanders
    Wangsgard, Arvilla Bernice and Herbert Joshua Sanders
    Wangsgard, Arvilla Bernice and Herbert Joshua Sanders
    Wedding day.
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and George Phillip
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and George Phillip
    Herbert is one year older but George is taller - brothers
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and Colin McDougal
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and Colin McDougal
    Colin'a mother, Elsie McDougal (married name) is a cousin of Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Logging truck
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua with Art and Genevieve
    1921 (At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.)
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and Arvilla Bernice Sanders
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and Arvilla Bernice Sanders
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and daughter, Elsa
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and daughter, Elsa
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and son, John
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and son, John
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
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    1918
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua and daughter, Genevieve
    1919 (At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.)
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Ogden, Utah
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    His Service Station
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    World Ward I Military
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua with sons, John and Joe
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    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua with family
    Genevieve, Herbert, Neil (Genevieve's son) and his wife, Bernice
    Bottom - Robin, David and Chris
    Others unknown (At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.)

    Histories
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua  life story
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua life story
    Description of Herbert Joshua Sanders's life in his own words.
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua Biography
    Sanders, Herbert Joshua Biography
    As told to his daughter, Arvilla Rae Sanders, in 1959