Herbert Joshua SANDERS

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Information from family group sheets and temple records.

DAD'S STORY

Told to me, Arvilla, first child of Herbert and Arvilla Bernice, in November
1959. He said, "My father, George Philip Sanders, born 31 March 1859, in
Bells River, Prince Edward Island, Canada, and my mother, Minnie Ada Ketcham,
born 26 May 1864, in Maspeth, Long Island, New York, were married 25 January
1886. They met in Long Island where my father was working for the Long Island
railroad, as a carpenter foreman.

I'm the fourth of five children: three sisters, Genevieve Agnes, born 28
September 1887; Edith Rundell, born 7 November 1888; Minnie Ketcham, born 8
November 1890. I, Herbert Joshua Sanders, was born 26 July 1893, and my
brother, George Philip, was born 27 July 1894.

My father was raised by his oldest brother, Joseph, his parents having died
when he was small. My father was 6 feet 2 inches tall in his stocking feet,
very handsome and kind. He was raised on a farm till a young man, then
learned the wheelwright and carpenters trade. My father was killed in a
railroad accident when he was thirty-two and I was only two years old.

My mother was tall, 5 feet 10 inches, and very pretty. She had dark brown
eyes and dark hair, so loving and kind. She was a nurse. All her friends and
neighbors knew what a wonderful nurse she was. She was the best cook in the
world.

Mother married Franklin Green Powers when I was five. When I was small, six
to ten years old, we traveled all over the East going to race tracks. Race
tracks was "Pop's" business. I went to Coney Island often, and roller skated,
swam and played games.

Impty, bimpty, diddly fig, One-ery, or-ere, Ick-ery Ann
dee-la, doe-la, domin-ig Phil-isy, Phollisy, Nickolas Dan
Ichee, pichee, domin-ichy, Stinklin, stonklin, Irish Mary
om pom tusk ala-bala boo, Squeeby, squaby Buck.
Out goes you.

I was "King Pin" of our gang, and they weren't the best of playmates. I
didn't say prayer as a child. I was christened in the Episcopal Church of
England.

As long as "Pop", my step-father, was alive we didn't want for anything. We
had fine horses and carriages and two servants. Pop gave us too much money to
spend for our own good.

I was an "A" number one student until my mama died. I was 10 and Mama's pet.
After she died I wouldn't go to school. I didn't have any home duties to do
and was jut let to run the streets and amuse myself.

"Pop" died when I was 14 and I was on my own from then on. Genevieve, my
oldest sister, ran the house. She took in five or six teachers as boarders
for a while and then went into nurse's training. Genevieve raised and
supported all of us.

Minnie and Edith took business courses and became stenographers. George
worked for a slate roofing company and lived at home while I went to work on a
farm. The man I worked for soon went into the painting and decorating
business and so did I.

One day when I was small I turned the neighbor's cows loose just for fun. My
brother, George, was going to tell so we fought and George picked up a rock,
threw it, and hit me in the back of the head. It hit so hard that it knocked
me out. George was so scared he ran five blocks for the doctor. In the
meantime, my sister Minnie carried me into the house and by the time the
doctor got there I was all right. From that day on George wouldn't raise a
hand to me no matter what I did to him. I took advantage of this many times.

I read all the favorite children's books. I liked to read and still do.

By the time I was fifteen I was working in Long Island in a bicycle and
handyman's shop, and delivered groceries on a hand cart, and worked in a
garage where I learned to be a mechanic.

At seventeen, I was private chauffeur for a doctor. I soon got the wander
lust and went to Florida where I worked as a chauffeur for a millionaire
lumberman for two years.

I was a chauffeur for a major in the signal corps during World War I. Most of
my duties were in Texas. After the army I came to LaGrande, Oregon, and
worked for the next fifteen years in the logging camps as a logging engineer.
While at a logging camp in 1915, I met my first wife, Edith Leslie. I was
twenty two, and she was sixteen when we were married.

We had five children. The first baby, George Herbert, lived only eight hours.
Edith was seventeen at the time and loosing her first baby was hard on her.

Geneveive Mary was born 14 August 1918; Arthur William was born 18 August
1920; Nadine Elizabeth was born 18 November 1922; and Robert Leslie was born 2
April 1925.

I bought the Texaco service station in Elgin, Oregon. I was in this business
only a short time when Edith passed away. She had an abcess in the brain and
suffered greatly.

Having been left with four children ages 11, 10, 7 and 5, I had to have a
housekeeper. There were several who were incompetent. I finally found one
who was satisfactory, but she took ill suddenly and had to have emergency
surgery, so her young widowed niece agreed to take over for her and hold the
job until she could come back. But,---while the lovely young widow and her
baby son, Billy, stayed, I fell in love with her many charms. Bernice was her
name and she lived a few blocks from my house with her mother and stepfather.
She came to work every morning at seven. I was always looking out the window
watching for her to come up the walk.

Finally I got up enough nerve to make permanent arrangements to keep her with
me all the time. We were married December 2, 1929. To this union eleven
children were born, making me the father of sixteen.

William (Billy) Walter Newell, being my wife's first child, and a baby at the
time of our marriage became my own in every way, except by blood ties.
Together we raised sixteen.

Herbert married Edith LESLIE on 16 Oct 1915. Edith (daughter of James LESLIE and Mary HOOVER) was born on 7 Jun 1899 in Fossil, Wheeler, Oregon; died on 19 Feb 1929 in Lagrande, Union, Oregon. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. George Herbert SANDERS was born on 9 Jul 1916 in Summerville, Union, Oregon; died on 9 Jul 1916 in Summerville, Union, Oregon.
2. Genevieve Mary SANDERS
3. Arthur William SANDERS
4. Nadine Elizabeth SANDERS
5. Robert Leslie SANDERS

Herbert married Arvilla Bernice WANGSGARD on 2 Dec 1929 in Legrande. Oregon. Arvilla (daughter of Thomas "L" WANGSGARD and Barbara Louisa RACE) was born on 12 Mar 1907 in Mountain View, Wyoming; died on 21 Oct 1987 in Forest Grove, Washington, Oregon; was buried on 26 Oct 1987 in Yamhill, Carlton, Cemetery. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Arvilla Rae SANDERS
2. Barbara Jean SANDERS
3. Olga Mae SANDERS
4. Elsa Lorraine SANDERS was born on 23 Apr 1936 in Ogden, Weber, Utah; died in Utah; was buried in Utah.
5. John Phillip SANDERS was born on 21 Aug 1937 in Vale, Malhuer, Oregon; died on 8 May 1990 in Portland, Oregon; was buried in Utah.
6. Frederick Joe SANDERS
7. Virginia Lee SANDERS
8. James Henry SANDERS
9. George Franklin SANDERS
10. David Joshua SANDERS
11. Christine Lynn SANDERS

George married Minnie Ada KETCHUM on 25 Jan 1886. Minnie (daughter of Joshua Sylvester KETCHUM and Phebe A. DEGROFF) was born on 26 Mar 1864 in Maspeth, Queens, New York; died on 16 Nov 1904 in Richmond Hill, Queens, New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Philip married Sarah Agnes COMPTON. Sarah (daughter of William COMPTON, Shipbuilder and Mary VAUGHAN) was born in Belle River, Belle Creek, Queens, PEI; was christened in 1818; died on 16 Feb 1889 in Belle River, P.E.I., Canada. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

BIRTH: family group sheet from records in Prince Edward Island have the
birthdate as 1810

Joshua married Phebe A. DEGROFF. Phebe (daughter of Cornelius DEGROFF and Phebe BOGART) was born on 1 Feb 1837 in Maspeth, Queens, New York; died on 3 May 1865. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Philip married Elizabeth VAIL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

William married Mary VAUGHAN in 1800 in New Brunswick, Canada. Mary (daughter of Daniel VAUGHAN and Lydia HARRINGTON) was born on 26 Feb 1784 in Chester, Nova Scotia; died on 16 Mar 1866 in Belle River, P.E.I. Canada; was buried in Brooklyn Cemeter. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Joshua married Ann BURCH. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Cornelius married Phebe BOGART. Phebe (daughter of Adrian BOGART and Phoebe Ann BAILY) was born about 1791 in Newtown, Long Island, Queens, N.Y.; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Information obtained from Bogart family history compiled by John Albert Bogart
and submitted for temple work by Herbert Joshua Sanders, ggg son. Temple work
was most likely completed in St. George, Utah.